franchi momentum elite vs tikka t3

The deciding factor for me was the trigger, and that 3 of my buddies shoot the Savage. Would you please review the a CZ 600 Alpha? Love your reviews. Vlad is an asshole in general who needs to go away. I dont say that lightly. Jeremy strives to collect objective data whenever possible, and looks to write accurate reviews that reflect the true user experience. He has managed multiple gun ranges, and has hunted around the world. Hello Jim, I am in the market for a new rifle and have really narrowed it down between the Fierce Rival and the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. Instead of light gun oil, I wouldwipe gun with a rig rag. Jim, after watching the review of your Rival I wanted you to know I had the same problems with mine. It uses the same barrel as the more expensive Bergara B14 rifles, because they are both owned by the same parent company and come out of the same factories in Spain. and If youre into Italian and youre into affordable, but you still want some Ferrari performance at the Fiat price, Franchis Momentum delivers the goods. Delsin Rowe is the main protagonist and playable character, a young Native-American man who later realizes hes a Conduit with special powers. My search is with an elk/mule deer hunt in mind. No doubt, it has s lot to offer. Style and Appearance * * * * Just curious, have you had a chance to review the Benelli Lupo. $1,299.00. Ruger Americans are fantastic. I have found the majority of shooters have a herd mentality and always believe that the latest is the greatest. Then I bought an Alaskan 338 Win Mag Laminate in Stainless. For some unknown reason it really didnt like Gorillas super nice, match-grade ammo and that entirely unoffensive group above was really horrible by Franchi Momentum standards. On the range, the Franchi Momentum Elite Varmint is a bit larger and heavier compared to some of the thinner and shorter barreled Momentum rifles, coming in at 9 lbs., 6.4 ozs. The stock feels really cheesy. Im going to let it cure for a day or so before testing it, if I still have an issue with slippage or it effects accuracy, I will switch out for new rings. What is your honest opinion of the CZ 600 Unfortunately, I cant weigh in on the Sauer 100 yet because I havent tried it. I was unaware of the QC issues with the Cross. I dont know even they even sell it anymore but about 10-15 years ago my first .308 was a mossberg ATR. Hey Jim, love your reviews and videos, just wondering when we might start seeing 7mm PRC rifles becoming more available in stores? Not real excited about paying for a custom build so wondering what you would recommend I consider? Jim, Great content on both the website and on Youtube. All are captive so you wont lose them. I love that Fierce Reaper but would probably have to sell another nice gun to get it and not sure I quite want to do that. Ive tried a lot of others, including Hornady PH (178gr I think) and Hornady Match 168 gr, and they are lucky to shoot 4 inch group with huge point of impact change. I recently purchased a Franchi Momentum 300 win mag w/24 in. Im really interested in them but can hardly find a proper review of them. As a matter of fact these days it usually sucks. I would not even try and shoot a moose with the Creedmore but its no problem with the 6.5 Swede with its 1 in 7.8 twist with the 160 grain slugs. Im a lefty that has to shoot cross over right handed bolts. Weatherby Mark V Weatherby makes a fantastic rifle. Question. The controlled-round feed action is great. What would you like to know? Along with the detail you put into your reviews of new ammo like the 6.5 and now 7 PRC. I wouldnt hesitate to recommend a Weatherby if you find one in a cartridge you like, or if you dont mind shooting Weatherbys overbore cartridges. XPR has a great barrel (mine was very accurate), free floated; pretty smooth bolt/action for price; same trigger as M70; permacote is durable; stock is better than most in price range. In todays market, it needs a more modern stock design, carbon barrel, and premium trigger to be worth the price they are asking. Good read. Its a push feed which means if you short stroke the bolt you can get a jam that I guarantee will take you half an hour to un-jam. In this price range, manufacturers use very loose tolerances and have very poor quality control, so Im careful what I recommend. You lost when you bought junk because it will always be low cost junk and you lost when you went to purchase something of quality because the price went way up because you fked around too long before you realized you should have bought quality to begin with when it was still relatively affordable. FRUSTRATING. I am over 50 now an i have owned and hunted 21 different rifles, that will be all brands from Rem 700, Browning , tikka, several Blasers and Sakos, Heym and some more. I am looking into ordering a 20 Super Sniper chambered in .308 and was curious to know if you have had any experience with it? The Momentum loved Armscors 168 grain FMJs, though. Is it ever gonna happen or should I just buy a 6.5 prc? I have the 2020 waypoint. My experience as well Tim! Yes and yes. Hey Jim, I would love to hear your imput on which rifle you prefer between the Ruger American, CVA Cascade, and the Winchester XPR. What do you think of the weight of the gun compared to some of these lightweight carbon stocks? I still love wood stocks. So small and packable, and Im getting incredible accuracy out of it. The budget rifle video and cartridge wars are among my fav on YouTube for hunting alone. I sent my Rival back for repair and after six weeks it came back with the same problem. Hi Jim, Hey Jim I recently found your stuff and have been doing a deep dive. How is it Franchis fault again? Forearm checkering extends nearly all the way forward, ending just short of another molded-in and recessed sling swivel mount. I own one in a 30-06, with 3 safes full of guns, it is my favourite. Action is amazing and a really great factory trigger. Jim, Gun #: 999725884. My loads averaging 3050 fps with the 162gr eldx. My builder said (because of the bad Winchester brass) he would not recommend the 68 Western. I also own a Savage 110 Ultralite in 6.5 PRC- fantastic accuracy, but I just could not warm up to the plasticy stock. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.6.1.1 (Release build 20180111) Page Time: 0.097s Queries: 14 (0.037s) Memory: 3.1032 MB (Peak: 3.2586 MB) Zlib disabled. 2) the 6.5 prc vs the 7 prc ( i have 2 338 win mags i am planning on keeping for elk +), My thoughts? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Most of the videos I see you get two shots touching and a flier on the mod 70. I would love to get your take or even see a review on it. I owned one and sold it. Thanks for the info , it will certainly help those with no interest in spending too much to have a good rifle. Why I Picked These Three Rifles Over the Competition. Hello Jim. I was looking at the Tikka for a while but Im not crazy about the slower twist in .30-06. Cheers. They have shot the ruger and no problem but alittle heavy to be packing around the mountain. But the biggest difference is that Franchi is hoping to sell rifles, and theyll sell 90, 6.5 Creeds for every 6.555 they sell , quoteBut the biggest difference is that Franchi is hoping to sell rifles, and theyll sell 90, 6.5 Creeds for every 6.555 they sell quote. I decided to go a different direction by changing out the barrel for a 20 inch Proof. I guess Im looking for an under 2K rifle chambered in a 300 win mag. i will say that if someone ever makes an after market "classic" stock for it, i'll dump the plastic factory one. Ive got a line on a used Seekins Havak Element in 6.5 PRC. I dont want it to feel pain or the anxiety of dying slowly. No. I owned one in .28 Nosler and it was a very poor choice for that heavy-recoiling of a cartridge. Any of you guys have any experience with the Burris signature scopes? In depth and honest And I need it in a shorter stock. Travis Skurray from Australia. Dumped lots of Deer, Black Bear and Moose with it. However, they really dont get enough attention from huntersmostly because they make few attempts to really stand out from the other rifles on the shelf. Jim. TIKKA is proven, Franchi has some good reports. And youre right about the cost of Weatherby ammo. My main criteria is staying sub 6 lbs if I can for the rifle only and sub moa guarantee. And a nice walnut stock would have cost them a few more pennies to use. Yes, it shipped with a knurled thread protector but I immediately lost it when I slapped my Dead Air Sandman Ti on. I can be an affiliate for just about any gun brand, so it doesnt impact my recommendations. Most of the great rifles youve taken time to make us salivate for do not make left handed models. Anyway, love the Backfire channel. funny, I was between the FME and the CVA cascade for a 350L. Probably going to be the Waypoint. I recently had a chance to sight it in and run everything over the chronograph . If you want a wood stock, metal parts, and nice bluing, feel free to spend an extra $300 or more on a Ruger Hawkeye or similar. Will be used mostly for white tail and hogs in Texas. It doesnt snag or grab clothes but somehow its still plenty soft and grippy. I just purchased a Rival this week. Again a super nice old world crafted gun anyone would be proud to own and show off to friends. PS. P.S. Is it like the other cheap stocks you mentioned You might also consider a more traditional 7 Rem Mag or .30-06. All in 7mm Rem Mag of course . Keep up the great work. There is a nice Bavarian Sako but theres isnt much data on accuracy on the range with a scope. guns.com Buy. I used to hunt as a kid. We have a complete post on the best rifles under $400 right here. Im in love. Can Italian go to a local gun store and buy one (or any firearm) without a government license or permission? Which leaves Winchester, Weatherby, Tikka/Sako. I do have a question that I hope you will address. Actually, I like it a lot. Any tips on bullet weight and powder brand? I am looking at loading with heavier grain bullets such as the Berger 30 cal 215 Hybrid or Berger 7mm 180 or 195 Grain bullets. What r your thought for a high end choice up to around the 3k range? Thats unfortunate because theyre chamberimg it in 7PRC. 2. have a metal finish at the trigger-guard, So, if those ones should be avoided, what rifles SHOULD hunters consider? In our testing, we had all of the guns chambered alike, but as soon as any of the reviewers shot the Tikka after shooting the other rifles, they all commented that the recoil felt heavier. I verified it with factory ammo, Guaranteed 1 MOA accuracy, but probably beats that, Guaranteed 1 MOA. DK. A friend texted me last week and said he had a $750 budget for a first hunting rifle and asked me what he should buy. I ended up buying a Bergara Mountain 2.0, which checked all the boxes for me as a hunting rifle. It is a three lug 60 deg. Threaded barrel for a brake. What about the Winchester Model 70? Hunting rifles per say but not many of the new techno rifles. The rifles are accurate, reliable, and built well. Adjustable from 2 pounds to 4 pounds, my sample fell right in the middle of that range. As Im new to the shooting world Im still undecided on a long range target rifle. Helping the Franchi Momentum turn in great groups well, helping the shooter do his or her part better is a wonderful factory trigger. I would like a 280 Ackley and Fierce only makes it in the Rival. With them being two different price points, Id be interested in your thoughts on spending the extra amount on the waypoint. Any opinions/guidance would be much appreciated! It has become one of my favorite guns. Vald, I love me some harbor freight. This is Franchis first rifle and they want into the market place are keeping the price low. What ammo are you shooting in your cross? Or is the lighter, cheaper, better looking cva more applicable? Have to admit I love Henrys, so am trying to take my heart out of the decision with wisdom from someone more experienced like you. Spacers are included for length of pull adjustment. I was down to the Ultralite or the Savage High Country and went with the High Country because of this. I have a bunch of ARs and tactical style stuff but sold the only bolt action I had before I ever fired it(Tikka CTR). Hi Jim love your content I was wondering if you had a chance to fire a Benelli lupo I own one and love it also have a Tikka tac t3x a Daniel Defense delta 5 pro a accuracy International at. I would definitely buy the Winchester XPR SR version, which means suppressor ready, so you get a threaded barrel. 1) the quality from rifle to rifle The action is butter smooth and the stock has a palm swell the sold me when I first picked the gun up. One issue that has come up with all three of their guns is having to check and tighten the front and rear action assembly screws. Gunwerks builds great guns, but I just dont see them as being THOUSANDS of dollars better than a Fierce, Weatherby, Seekins, etc. bolt throw. It was made for them as a throw back to the Finbear (now Discontinued) Its chambered in 270. The Weatherby Vanguard threaded, Bergara B14, and Howa Carbon Stalker are all models Im researching more to try to come to a definitive decision. superbly accurate with federal non-typical 150s (second load i tried). With attitude like that, you will only buy domestic products and if leftists have their way, none. Hi Jim Im trying to click your links to the guns but its not working. You are using an out of date browser. John did tell me that they are currently working on a fix for the extractor problem. That\s not a total game changert now there are other choices. The stock is among the best I have ever used, its reasonably lightweight, excellent on accuracy, and the manufacturing quality is reliable. They are reviewing new rifles not old ones. x bolt is about 150 or more expensive. Ive narrowed it to 3, but just cant quite choose. I do like the Weatherby rifles as well as Tikkas. The Sig Cross is the rifle that I have consistently used more than any other hunting rifle in my gun vault. Jeremy is TTAG's Deputy Editor, working mostly behind the scenes but, when he attempts to write, he focuses on comprehensive gun & gear reviews. I used to not care about if the bolt locked on safe but after a walk in the woods of ND with a Ruger American and the bolt falling out, to not be recovered on the opener, I now only have guns that lock the bolt on safe. How about a Bergara Wilderness Ridge in 7 mag? Im down to the Savage 110 Ultralite and the Christensen Ridgeline. I am looking for a 6.5 creedmoor bolt action hunting rifle for our place in north central west Texas. It looks like a real great gun. (Live in northern Alberta.) I just wish there was a better feeling about the Ridgeline. For my boy. But I cant understand why offering left handed guns seems impossible to some manufacturers. Its great out to about 400. Franchi Momentum All-Terrain Elite .308 Win 18" 1:11" Bbl TrueTimber Strata/Midnight Bronze 10+1 Rifle 41750. To be clear, youll load the rifle from the top, pushing one round at a time down and into the internal magazine, and this function allows you to safely and easily unload the Momentum. It truly needs to be able to handle rough handling. Good luck wearing one out with your old ass, you could have the best or worst and it wouldnt matter since its seeing all of a day of use once a season. Great deal. Thats a nice collection. Im a big fan of Sig pistols and never had an issue with QC. I love it. Fierce is about $400 more and almost a pound heavier. You should always spend your hard earned money on what *you* like, but the Franchi stock strikes me as an example of what the late Chuck Hawks called "Euro trash.". I enjoy watching your videos but havent found any with this specific manufacture. Id like to know how the Sandman suppressor performed. And based on my limited sample size, this budget rifle seems to prefer budget ammo. I just cant keep myself from grabbing the Sig Cross. Had a question, What are your thoughts/opinion on the Wilson Combat AR10s? Wish I discovered your content sooner and thankful for all your hard work. A little heavier than the cross but the little feedback Ive seen has been good. Just remember one thing the price of the good older stuff keeps going up and up so when you waste your money on junk it never goes up in value as fast as the good stuff so when you do get around to buying something of quality you lost twice not once. Been following your channel for a few years and have loved all the reviews. Magazine Comparison: The Browning X-Bolt features a 4 round detachable polymer rotary magazine. Appreciate the comment. Hey there Jim. I am a huge fan of their 1911s and know they are big into precision rifles. Manual cover also says- Do not use without reading Manual. I agree with you 100 percent it is a home run for Springfield!!! Can you do a in-depth comparison review of the CVA Cascade vs. Ruger American? Jim Harmer is a host of the Backfire Youtube channel. Combing the interwebs just now I see other reviews reporting groups from 0.40 to 2 MOA depending on caliber and ammunition brand/load. RECENTLY SOLD View More Data . All good options, but Id go with the Cross if youll be using it for any backcountry hunting. The Tikka action is by far the best in this price point because it cycles ammo perfectly, has a silky smooth bolt slide and is manufactured to a high tolerance so every last one I pick up feels just as good as the one next to it. Thanks. Tikka T3X or Franchi Momentum Elite - ALDEER.COM Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2022 Aldeer LLP. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. I want to buy a new rifle in 30-06. The ammo is inexpensive and widely available, the recoil in manageable for most shooters, and the cartridge is unquestionably capable of taking elk cleanly. I like the action of the Howa better but the Proof barrel on the Savage. If I were buying a new hunting rifle today and I could drop $2,300, Id pick the Fierce Rogue with a steel action. I am going to use the rifle for mainly whitetail deer hunting in Wisconsin but I occasionally like once every 5-10 years go out west and hunt pronghorn or elk and have recently tried to hunt moose in Alaska. I went with the CVA simply for that reason. Is yours that picky? Know it is not a bolt action rifle, but how does the Henry Long Ranger stack up against these options? What do you think of the Bergara B14 HMR? Those that do could at least be highlighted. Granted, I got the better tools for measuring how off what they sold is but theres some applications where cheap is better. Fantastic. I really have enjoyed watching your YouTube channel and reading some of your articles on backfire! Hey Jim, I think your doing an amazing job on bringing us unbiased information all hunting gear not just rifles. That one is on my radar and Id love to hear your thoughts on it. . Thanks! Thanks for your thoughts and time! have since restocked it with a B&C M40, and will use it for long range targets and steel. Any thoughts. (1) The Springfield 2020 Waypoint with a steel barrel, (2) You could wait a few months for the new Bergara B14 Squared Crest to come out, or (3) Get a Sig Cross. The more you talk the clearer it becomes that youve never held much less used a gun. I found not too long ago a Husqvarna Mauser for $400 bucks in like new condition. We watch all your videos on YouTube. Quality control issues, Im about to send it BACK in for a 2nd time for them to figure out why its damn near impossible to open or close the bolt after a few shots. A junk dull blue finish, it would have costed them too much to put a decent high gloss bluing on it. it just feels right. Beater rifles go until they cant. But its a great all around gun out to 450 when most hunters can only shoot 250, if that. Both have 3 lug bolts with the lugs integral with the rest of the bolt body 3. I hear a lot of people liking the Seekins Havak, but it just hasnt grabbed me. Vlad is typical progtard. Thank you for your great videos especially on moderately priced optics and arms. Threaded barrel, cerakote barrel, hand painted stock. Jim, So not sure what went wrong with the patriot, and I dont really use the ATR except for friends to use but it is a hell of an accurate rifle. Italy has crazy gun control laws, like most of Europe. Your input has influenced some decision Im making for future hunting rifles and calibers. Its that or the ruger American in 6.5. The best part of learning how much I love hunting was how little I first put in. The other option is the Springfield 2020 Waypoint. have you try the weatherby mark v accumark in 300 win mag? Loved seeing some rifles I hadnt seen vids on with the Sako and getting your full thoughts. I have monkey arms so a new stock is in the future for whatever rifle I choose another reason Im trying to keep the price down. Keep up the great work. (weight) The reason I am more interested in an AR instead of a bolt action is because: I would like to have an adjustable stock for hunting in multi layers of clothing and backpack straps, the need to adjust my length of pull is important. $699.00. Also, it works great if you quickly manhandle the action. BTW unless youre reloading, the vast majority of factory 6.5 Creedmoor is quite a bit faster than the same projectile in 6.555. How may races are there and is idiot one? Hear hear. Id go with the Sako in that case. High comb, rigid, modern stock lines. Did you pick up the Seekins? I was in the market for an affordable hunting rifle this year and you helped me a lot and changed my mind on my first choice. I think you did a good job in your review of 25 hunting rifles at various price points. Both the Momentum Elite and the newer Tikka Veil are . I took it back to Scheels and the guys said its the second time someone has brought one back with that issue in a week. As an Amazon Associate I earn from qualifying purchases. What? So how do you really feel? Chambered in .308 Winchester, the author's Franchi Momentum has a 22-inch barrel with a threaded muzzle and a black synthetic stock with a recoil pad and integral sling-swivel studs. Ive got an old 700 that is a beautiful gun and was a great deal but Im taking the plastic stock Savage up in the tree this fall. Its an expensive gun but Ive been hearing good things. Still, its the 2020 Waypoint in my opinion. Could you please do a review on the Sauer 100 stainless xta. I\m looking for a good \all around\ big game hunting rifle (elk, whitetail/mule deer, and antelope mostly). Cries racism when pointed out that is an idiot. I came over the years to loath short action rifles. Hello Jim, Your videos and information are amazing. Wondering your opinion on those I understand theyre not hunting rifles I just thought you would enjoy those rigles as I do. Advice? So Id recommend just paying for it online. There are so many other options to consider, but hopefully, that gives you a solid starting place if youre looking for a premium hunting rifle. He is a well-known entrepreneur, having started many successful online brands, and lives in St George, Utah. So with 6.5CM its sure to take the deers soul. Are you familiar with this cartridge? I was disappointed to see that you no longer recommend the Savage 110 ultralight, having watched the original review which just about made up my mind to spend the $1200. Maybe not, but I have been caught in down pores and all the morons that were with me came back to the car with rust on their guns but not me. Its an EXCELLENT do-all caliber. Yes, even if my hunting situation means most shots will be shorter range, I want a rifle that will reach out and make a 250 or 350 yard shot accurately in case it needs to. BarrelLength: 22 inches There was getting to the point where I found I needed better but thats not how the first few years took off. Great choice in a gun. Overall Length: 42.3 inches The stock is cheesy feeling, but nicely shaped and rigid. If you had 1500-2500 just for one, which make would you drop that cash on? bolt turn was a bit rough out of the box. Mine shoots 1/2 MOA with handloads, Available in: 6 Creedmoor, 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, .308 Win, Available in: 6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, .308 Win, 300 Win Mag. Thanks, Joe. I want a lightweight rifle that has mild Recoil with ballistics similar to 270 Winchester but in a short action. I am looking for an all purpose dependable rifle to handle more than one role. Never bother with a Winchester M70, because I thought it was old fashion. I have not seen a semi-auto in 6.5 PRC, should I wait? Its the classic , its The One , its stood the test of time , its been around longer than the rest and will still be here long after these other rifles have fallen out of fashion. I wanted to get into deer/large game hunting while trying to stick with one gun for all animals (deer to elk) and I live in northeast South Dakota. Premium recoil pad, pic rail, fluted barrel, muzzle breakMOA guaranteed accuracy like the Tikka. Feeler gauges became shims for my lathe and mill. In front of the recoil pad, on the bottom of the Momentums shoulder stock, are two molded-in features: a hand groove grip area for holding the stock with ones support hand while shooting from a rest, and a recessed sling swivel mount. Hold on to it. Jim, Ive owed most of the brands youve mention here. The Cross is great for 6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5 PRC, but the stock just isnt suitable for heavy recoiling cartridges. I\ve been looking at a lot of your reviews and videos and am wondering if 7mm rem mag might be the best option for a cartridge. Looks great. Manual dont talk about 6.5 Creedmore ! However, if this was not a ringer and indicative of the accuracy to be expected, it would be a great entry level rifle. Id be interested in seeing a review of the q fix. Definitely the most accurate rifle I have owned right out of the box. Just a few examples of what is out there on the used market so why in the hell would anyone be dumb enough to buy modern made piece of garbage. Surprisingly accurate. The trigger is adjustable like the Tikka. This post contains affiliate links to help monetize this site. I think I will try to pick one up next week, in either a .308 or .300. The action is a Mauser type like Sako. I have found a lot of draw backs such as a cramped magazine box that when I tried to seat bullets out there was no room in the magazine to do so therefore I had excess bullet jump into the throat of the barrel, especially older barrels with slightly eroded throats and not being able to seat the bullet out sometimes does not give you the best accuracy. Ultimately it still looks and feels like an inexpensive, plastic stock that youd expect to find on a budget hunting rifle. Along with it is 2-position safety that . Or even at a much higher price range. At the back of the bolt shroud, the firing pin protrudes to show cocked status (as seen above) and is flush with the rear of the bolt shroud when not cocked. I mean, I realize you use supersonic ammunition and would have liked to have heard how home-rolled subsonic ammo performed. Looks like a good buy. Thanks for any input. Next. Get one , in 30-06 for the purest experience , and youll be convinced ! The Tikka T3x has a single-column detachable clip magazine made from a strong fiberglass-reinforced composition.

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