star trek: discovery tilly weight gain

It just came to me and wanted your opinion. And if people are critical of her because her appearance does not meet their expectations, they dont really have a clue of what Star Trek is all about. The U.S.S. It's mostly the super-hero genre where you see this. What I should point out though is that Mack earned the moniker Angel of Death among the Litverse fans. Whether you choose to believe it or not, youre actually part of the problem. Please dont ban me!). IMHO, if she usually eats well, trains and commits to staying healthy, then life can be a lot of fun leading an active adventurous life while still enjoying food and fine dining and it is irrelevant what people say about her looks. Anyway, another Discovery-ism, amongst the many other weird decisions on this show. Somehow these insecure people feel others not like them are a threat to how they see themselves and how the world should, in their opinion, be. 42 comments so far. Ill never forget when I, a woman of 160# at 58, healthy, deemed fit by military and bodyfat percentage indexes, approached the Credit Union one day, when the guy at the ATM finished his transaction, turned, saw me, and yelled Hey, fatass!. But of course this being Star Trek they SPOILER ALERT bring her back to life! Wiseman had other things to do. So her appearances ended up not being 100% awful. But Im just happy we are talking about Voyager again, especially since this show is basically a spin off of it! And thats a healthy outlook. I like me. And I just really love having Janeway back. People sit around a lot more nowadays for a lot of reasons. . Not Mary Wisemans fault; the writers fault. 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Ive seen fan-fics with better characters than this. Then there are many women like Sonequa, who feel theyre too skinny. The Enterprise D was the only place we saw a councelor. You misunderstood. How is she supposed to sound considering nobody knows what people in the 23rd century will talk like? I think others that make such claims are having their own feel feels hurt or nostalgia rattled. Fans need to stop being rude and act like gentlemen for once. The journey to discovering Tilly, the rescue puppy that would change our lives, began before she was even born. Seasons one through three are available to stream now on CBS All Access. If Tilly needed to pick up a phaser or be physically active then that means the Discovery is in some serious shit, with it either having been boarded and their entire security personnel neutralised, or with Tilly separated from the ship, most like due to its destruction. The only thing she is qualified for at Starfleet Academy is as a 23rd century specialist. And how and how would your abilities be used in the Mirror Universe? Lets stick with the science and not target individuals. Theres a little Harley Quinn. But I did not watch DIS S4 either. It would definitely be great if Rhys was promoted to first officer. And if youre able to use that against someone, that could be very, very dangerous. That being said, knowing what weight restrictions there are for men and women serving avoid combat ships in todays Navy, my bet would be she would need to lose some weight to preserve her shipboard assignment in todays real-world Navy. No, from Starfleets POV its 3 years. Any accent would be acceptable for a time that hasnt happened yet. He was non-military, the same height as me, and easily weighed 300#. Though frankly, I find people like her generally seem more aware of their overall health and fitness than people who try to fit others images. I suppose thats why some places are rising and others are very visibly in decline. Its very likely shell be on the Star Fleet Academy show if she continues as a regular/recurring character on a Trek show. That was why she was never in uniform the first few seasons. I echo your sentiments exactly, David. Editor's note, 23 Dec 2020: If you like Wiseman's interview here, then you should also check out interviewer Dawn Ennis's other work. Shes a little overweighed, so what? I always have to correct it, so its not terribly efficient. David Ajala: I think its made Cleveland Booker even more attracted to Michael Burnham because I think he looks and goes Oh, scrumptious. Weight gain from thyroid issues, anti depressants, steroids, is a fairly small percent of the population. That finale appearance was basically a cameo. ..I have a total girl crush. I LOVE the future! I always felt that I wanted hips and a butt. She is perhaps, the most human character on the show. I dont think youre ready for that kind of interaction, online, or anywhere else. Season four of Star Trek: Discovery arrives on Thursday, November 18 on Paramount+. She is relatable and human and wonderful. But admittedly, its pretty close. Its shall we say very variable. Disco has a lot of problems storywise But not her looks! I do not endorse body-shaming in any way, as I was bullied as a kid years ago. Ichebs torture on Picard was horrible and the eating ganglia in S1, yikes! Its gotten very stale now. Paramount+'s Star Trek: Discovery is the flagship of the modern-day Star Trek television franchise, premiering in 2017 and about to launch its fourth season on November 18. Mary Wiseman is a beautiful lady as is Sonequa Martin-Green. I think Mary Wiseman is a fantastic actress..the writing for Tilly is an abomination. Imo, this show tries so overly hard to be socially progressive, its the very thing that makes it a turn-off. One reason why I think people gravitated towards Trip the most on Enterprise was that the combination of writing and performances created one of the most believable humans in Star Trek this side of Dr. McCoy and Chief OBrien. Star Trek: Discovery currently streams exclusively on Paramount+ in the U.S. My personal opinion is, if you see ribs in their low decolletage, they are probably not so healthy. And for your own gain, right? That said, the stolid approach to characterization has its benefits as well when an emotional outburst happens it can be devastating (see: Picards breakdowns in the likes of Family, Chain of Command, First Contact), but it also allows for subtler moments to have outsized impacts (Odo asking Garak to breakfast, Seven revealing her favorite color, Picards 1/4 smiles when no one is looking, Spocks eyebrow etc), which is also quite true to life. She wears 36D bra size and weighs 147 pounds. Unless you want to count Ezri Dax she was a therapist but I dont believe she heald a high ranking command position. She let go in S4 of her parents expectations and embraced a new purpose. Theyre losers, pure and simple. Anyway it was just a thought. If I was a public figure I would do zero social media, ignore the internet, cash my massive paychecks, sign autographs for real in-person fans I meet, and be so thankful Im not working in a grunt job making minimum wage. By: TrekMovie.com Staff It makes it quite American centric. Like a lot of people, she pivoted and found herself in a new role as teacher. Internationally, the series is available on Paramount+ in Australia, Latin America and the Nordics, and on Pluto TV in Austria, France, Germany . https://t.co/zV56ClHoUZ, Kate Mulgrew (@TheKateMulgrew) December 18, 2020. Harry wasnt annoying. For me, DS9 was the best Star Trek Show for character development. She brings so much heart to the show. Although the last TNG with Trois mom wasnt terrible. She also revealed some of her inspirations for this version of Tilly: There is a little Azula from Avatar: The Last Airbender in there. Im not surprised people making mean comments, some people will find whatever they can that they know will upset everyone and say it. Its just lazy writing. There are a number of places you can receive professional help and I strongly recommend you seek that help. Would a woman watching this aspire to be a Tilly or aspire to be a Dax, Kira or Janeway? All Access Star Trek Podcast, Discovery, DS9, Lower Decks, Section 31, Star Trek 4, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Prodigy, Strange New Worlds. Bad writing, illogical story arcs, unbalanced tempo, underdeveloped characters or sudden jumps in character development. At New York Comic Con, TrekMovie participated in some group interviews with members of the cast and crew,. I keep reading that no character like hers should not be in starfleet, yet she is. They told us and a handful of other outlets what to expect for their characters and more. This show has disrespected the actress with poor development and no real storyline except oh hey, im awkward guys. I cant stand any sentence (especially related to DSC) which starts off with Everybody loves Its never true. I know Gene Rodenberry never wanted Starfleet to be portrayed as a military outfit, but this has gone so far in the opposite direction that its being run like a pre-school participation awards ceremony. Sonequa, Their characters are fantastic as are all the others. That is why you never saw councelors on any other class ship. Remember , they had steroids and thyroid problems in the 80's, but the majority of people were off normal weight, which today would be called skinny. Tilly, played by Mary Wiseman on Star Trek Discovery is not pregnant. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. She makes it all look so easy. Theres even a scene where she pretty much turns to the camera and says that shell stay till the very end. I think Mary is amazingly pretty and has absolutely nothing to worry about in terms of her figure. Im a human being, you know? Someone with a lack of intelligence throws a race card at every debate. It was the fall of 2017 and my non-Trekkie wife, Lisa, had begrudgingly agreed to watch Star Trek: Discovery with me, having heard me talk nonstop about how excited I was for Trek's return to TV.We were on the third episode, "Context is for Kings," when she appeared. Even Picard has his own show. Where I live people compete on the merits and are proud of their professional or intellectual achievements not their bad habits, bad health or even born with attributes such as divergent sexual orientation that they had no influence over whatsoever. Mary Wiseman: That experience affects her so much this season. I keep hearing the word heartthats the poorest excuse yet. For someone who is supposed to care about others, shes been remarkably stuck in her own emotions. Im reaally hoping season 4 will be smoother, Im holding thumbs here. They should all try for the standards of randos on the internet like you Every woman is very beautiful. The moment they decided to incorporate a new character with basically the same characteristics (a young, socially awkward, but very smart ensign) they ruined Tilly. I agree, in fairness Barclay was relatable in many ways, socially awkward but not too overplayed. Overweight and obesity are a leading health risk identified by the World Health Organization. So sayeth Scotty, the contrarian. Try the Daily Mail for 5 minutes. I realized that unless I wanted to deal with health issues like hypertension, diabetes and other medical ailments, I would have to eat less and less as I got older and older. And to be honest, her character has regressed significantly over the past few years. | March 22, 2022 | With Discovery now firmly planted in the distant future, Paradise notes the importance of ensuring that that show remains connected to the larger Star Trek universe through well-placed references . Season four of Star Trek: Discovery arrives on Thursday, November 18 on Paramount+. I think theres room for it. She hasnt mentored anyone except in one episode. Id add Kirk to that at several times over the years. Tilly is the most human member of the crew. But then again Im not a troll. We love that someone who isnt super fit was cast, especially that its a woman. Tilly appears twice in the Star Trek: Discovery season 5 trailer. Mary Wiseman is confirmed to return as Sylvia Tilly in Star Trek: Discovery season 5, although whether she rejoins the crew or continues at Starfleet Academy and only interjects occasionally remains unknown. I think Saru will just be the surrogate first officer again although he is now a captain. Given all the trouble the crew got into, Im sure they needed one on the ship. However, with the successive changes in show runners the coherence of Burnhams development has been lost. But dont those characteristics fit better on a younger character, while the older one grows up and changes? Along with this, the biggest thing that Michael aided Tilly with was her confidence. I hope were able to explore it because theres potential for great levity, but then also really important conversations to be had because when you care about someone you dont want to see them go through pain, and I can see completely how Tilly will be very protective of Michael Burnham. I for one have always had to watch my weight and I still wage the battle to this day. I have only heard of the details a few months ago thanks to a video that TrekCentral (amazing YouTube channel) made about it for Prodigy theorizing a connection. Keep up the great work ladies! Heck I think it was more unrealistic when some chick was upset he wasn't ready for sex. Then that very well could be something for not just women but everyone to aspire towards. I'm finding Star Trek Discovery to be incredibly dull and childish. I let go of my preconceptions about what star trek is. 1:15. However, I do struggle with popular media normalizing unhealthy weights whether over or underweight because they are health risks. I like her personality though, mostly. Jerks. Mary shouldnt listen to the haters and Sonequa, I never noticed she looked any different than she did before, body wise. Some of us dont grasp the very basic foundation of what Star Trek is all about!? Not holding my breath hes given the job though, especially since we know Saru is coming back. This week's episode raised concerns. Sylvia Tilly was an ambitious female Human Starfleet officer who lived during the mid- 23rd century. Mary Wiseman is sending the message that your body is your own, your responsibility, and nobody elses business, not any sort of health and fitness message. In fact most of their fears and phobias were explored in various episodes. ;). Took time to reset the franchise. Tillys anxiety got old real fast. As soon as she was, they should have rewritten Tilly from being a cadet to being a lieutenant or something. Shes one of the shows most divisive characters. Agree. I suspect that Prodigy may use some of the elements that Beyer expanded or created for Full Circle without actually developing any of the overall story arc. When Mary Wiseman's Lt. Sylvia Tilly left the USS Discovery for a job at the new Starfleet Academy in the fourth episode of season four, it was promised she would be back. Why does the therapist appear to outrank the CMO? And yeah, some of us are coach potatoes, most of us certainly not gold cut supermodels. Contents 1 Early life 2 Starfleet career 2.1 USS Discovery 2.1.1 The war 2.1.2 Post-war 2.1.3 32nd century 3 Personal relationships 3.1 Friendships This is rare case were I actually agree with Lorma. I guess some people would rather the perfect people of TNG than anyone that mirrors back anything they dont want to see in themselves. Tilly got fat, that is inexcusable. No spoilers in case I ever decide to actually the write the thing, but youd love it as a DS9 fan. A Stitch in Time kicks off the Garak/Cardassian books and is excellent. WTF this is why Ive been following Star Trek since the original in 1967 when I saw Nichelle Nichols. Maybe Saru wont be on the ship as much but Im guessing they are going the same direction. The laughing, alone, is far more damaging and shameful and disgusting and disrespectful than obesity itself. Understanding? Just blows my mind. Wiseman would be smart to ignore the haters because their posts are rooted in negativity and hate. Thank you for your counter opinion. When I was around 12 I used to eat peanut butter and drink Ensure, a meal replacement drink, before I went to sleep. MS Wiseman owns the sadistic Bitch Capt Killy like she does Tilly. Its very possible Mary Wiseman wanted off the show, or needed a bit of a break. The visual reboot premise was overstretched. There really are some of the DS9 authors that are stronger and some that tend to tell too much and show to little in their writing in my view. Plus, TNG literally had a therapist as part of the bridge crew. The increasingly repeated notion that Discovery has saved the Trek franchise with emotion and humanity is dubious revisionist history. Jealous and insecure,they can only feel better by putting others down. And CBS posted some images of Emperor Georgious quarters on the ISS Discovery. Wait I havent watched season 4, nor will I ever after the stupidity that was season 3 But now shes a leader at the academy?! Having a discussion about healthy weights, healthy eating and physical activity and how thats important is a good Star Trek message. Eh, only in some particular parts of the internet. But Tilly and the nervous mess Adira has devolved into? But its the elephant we have in the room, these days. However, in the same interview she also talked about how some fans have not been so supportive in season three: I noticed theres definitely been an uptick in body-shaming towards me and Tilly this season, which was harrowing because Im a person, I have a history and bullying is totally a part of that. Trolls that bodyshame others are a lower life form. Acceptance? She never wouldve made it through the Academy. He was in the Travis Mayweather category. 89. TrekMovie.com is not endorsed, sponsored or affiliated with CBS Studios Inc., Paramount Pictures Corp. or the Star Trek franchise. Im sorry youve had to experience that and I strongly urge you to take what comfort you can from whatever source you can, regardless of how other people feel about that source. I agree with you on principle as far at this being fine on a fictional Star Trek show. Ive read plenty of well-deserved criticism of the writing but to my knowledge, there has been no widespread criticism of STD acting or physical appearances. A person who we see strive to make themselves a better person. Background information. I didnt like Reed from Enterprise, does that make me a troll? That is not anything to diss. In this week's episode of Star Trek: Discovery season four, we saw Tilly leaving her crew and heading to the academy in order to foster young minds. The rumors started and spread like wildfire when some fanatics of Star Trek Discovery found out that Mary gained a few pounds between the seasons. Youre saying she isnt believeable because she sounds like she has a 21st century *accent*? Mary Wiseman: We dont have that many scenes together but theres a lot of tension between us just as actors and personalities. After the first two seasons of high pressure I thought I would have seen more growth. No character like her would ever have graduated Starfleet. the only one worth saving.. quite possibly the most irritating character in Trek history. Actually, the production team is not helping either. And others opinions dont factor in. Good for her, and I love the character! But I really do like Book a lot! Ive re-learned through life experiences how to stop and smell the roses again you might say, among other things. I could watch Tilly all day! Star Trek is supposed to be socially progressive but this show went too far. But respect is always earned and never enforceable. Release date: Star Trek Discovery season 4 will release on November 18 in the US. After his first episode or two, I was done with Barclay and was frustrated when he came back, and especially when he showed up on Voyager. I guess making Tilly first officer isnt anywhere close to ridiculous as making KT Kirk a Captain who was still a cadet and had probably spent 2 weeks in space before he got the jobbut its pretty damn close. Andrew: Great, perceptive, thoughtful post! I just wonder if maybe they are adapting the basic idea to what we are seeing in Prodigy since the Protostar couldve been part of the Full Circle program and was sent back to the DQ for a specific mission? A statistical average does not justify shaming or ridiculing anyone. Although criticism of a performance is valid (Burnhams whispering, over emoting etc.) Especially when there were just so many more qualified people for the job on and off the ship. Yeah, self absorbed is an excellent way to describe her character, Id never thought of it that way. SuKal accidentally blowing up all warp ships thats another instance of Trek being intwined with my own life So you offend S3 of DSC, you also sully the memory of my mum and EVERY mother that ever died. For more info or tickets visit the Lincoln Center Theater site.

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